I was in fact considering the idea that Söring sought to improve his chances for a trial in Germany by sticking to his confession. You‘ve cleared that up for me. Man lernt nie aus.
The problem Söring faced was that he wanted to be tried in Germany, but there was no basis for this to happen, since the crime didn't take place there and the evidence wasn't there. It is incredibly rare for a crime to be tried in a different country from where it was committed; that only happens when the place where the crime occurred basically doesn't have a functioning justice system or engages in grave human-rights violations.
The only slim possibility was that Söring (1) would win a judgment in Europe banning the death penalty in his case; (2) Virginia would still insist on the death penalty; and (3) the UK would not try Söring itself. But to even have a German option, German prosecutors would need to actually start a case against Söring. They would need some evidence which would be admissible in a German courtroom to base their criminal complaint on. There would have been several ways to do this, including formal evidentiary requests from the USA.
But his lawyers decided the easiest way to establish this would be for him to confess. His existing confessions might not have been admissible in a German court because they weren't conducted under German law in the German language. So that's what Söring did. This had the added advantage of allowing Söring to "build in" excuses in his German confession: specifically that he was under the influence of alcohol and extreme emotional disturbance. So he played up those parts of the confession.
So as is often the case, there is a kernel of truth to Söring's claims -- he did indeed confess to the German prosecutor to at least open up the remote theoretical possibility (maybe 1%, and I mean that literally) of being tried in Germany. But that doesn't mean the confession wasn't *accurate*. He was simply repeating it in a different language with slightly different legal standards.
It doesn't change the fact that he already knew Elizabeth was going to return to the USA, plead guilty, and accept the consequences. There was nothing he could have done to "help" her at that point, and she had already indicated not only that she didn't want his help. In fact, she was about to do something that would be horribly damaging to *him*, since she would be pleading guilty to a crime he himself had committed.
So yes, he did repeat his confession to enhance his chances of being tried in Germany, but that has nothing to do with whether that confession was accurate or not.
You should not forget to mention, that Soering had stated a Haysom being present at the crime scene for the first time which was the complete opposite of keeping her away from the scene by placing her to DC. To explain this with emotional disturbance or alcohol sounds a little dumb. It makes more sence that ending the romantical relation-ship and the common plan to fight for extradition with mild punishments also ended Soering's intention to place her in DC any further!
Andrew, ich verstehe, dass Deine Arbeit hier im Blog sich dem Ende neigt, und der Wert Deiner Arbeit kann nicht hoch genug eingeschätzt werden. Emotional bin ich damit nicht einverstanden, denn der große Unterhaltungswert deiner Arbeit wird mir fehlen. Ich freue mich auf den nächsten Teil deiner Video-Reihe auf YouTube und wünsche Dir weiter viel Erfolg.
Sehr gut! Einzig möchte ich anmerken, dass Sörings Story Nr. 1 gegenüber der Polizei so lautete: "Ich weiss nichts von den Morden und habe die Opfer auch nur einmal kurz gesehen!" Wir können diese allererste Version Sörings der Einfachheit halber auch als Story Nr. 0 bezeichnen, dann stimmt ja die Nummerierung im Video wieder..... 😊
Das komische ist, dass nie irgend jemand nachträglich erzählt hat, dass Söring ihn ins Vertrauen gezogen hätte und erzählt hat, dass er es gar nicht war. Das hält man doch gar nicht aus; die ganze schreckliche Angst vor den Konsequenzen und all das. Wenigstens einem von den „befreundeten“ Knackis hätte er doch mal sein Herz ausschütten können. Das hat er all die Jahre nicht getan aus dem einzigen akzeptablen Grund, dass ER ES EBEN DOCH WAR.
Man muss sich zumindest mit Söring so auseinander setzen, dass es den Tatsachen entspricht. Dafur muss man kein Supporter sein. Das tust du offensichtlich nicht. Stattdessen Küchenpsychologie. Söring hat sich während seiner Haftzeit mehreren Geistlichen anvertraut, die auch mitunter dem Paroleboard vorgesprochen haben. Also dein schwammiger Rückschluss sagt überhaupt nichts aus. Söring kann all diese Menschen manipuliert haben. Ein Lügendetektor wurde allerdings nie sein Gesprächspartner!
Wieso duzen Sie mich? In meiner Küche gibts keine Psychologen, nur Sushi. Mir ist Söring mittlerweile sowas von piepe. Es wird niemals rauskommen, was wirklich los war. Ich habe drei von seinen Büchern gelesen, um ihn zu verstehen. Dafür gibt es aber viel zu viele gute Bücher, dass ich mir ein viertes von ihm reinziehe. Reicht ja, wenn Sie über alles Bescheid wissen.
Thanks for the new installment.
I was in fact considering the idea that Söring sought to improve his chances for a trial in Germany by sticking to his confession. You‘ve cleared that up for me. Man lernt nie aus.
The problem Söring faced was that he wanted to be tried in Germany, but there was no basis for this to happen, since the crime didn't take place there and the evidence wasn't there. It is incredibly rare for a crime to be tried in a different country from where it was committed; that only happens when the place where the crime occurred basically doesn't have a functioning justice system or engages in grave human-rights violations.
The only slim possibility was that Söring (1) would win a judgment in Europe banning the death penalty in his case; (2) Virginia would still insist on the death penalty; and (3) the UK would not try Söring itself. But to even have a German option, German prosecutors would need to actually start a case against Söring. They would need some evidence which would be admissible in a German courtroom to base their criminal complaint on. There would have been several ways to do this, including formal evidentiary requests from the USA.
But his lawyers decided the easiest way to establish this would be for him to confess. His existing confessions might not have been admissible in a German court because they weren't conducted under German law in the German language. So that's what Söring did. This had the added advantage of allowing Söring to "build in" excuses in his German confession: specifically that he was under the influence of alcohol and extreme emotional disturbance. So he played up those parts of the confession.
So as is often the case, there is a kernel of truth to Söring's claims -- he did indeed confess to the German prosecutor to at least open up the remote theoretical possibility (maybe 1%, and I mean that literally) of being tried in Germany. But that doesn't mean the confession wasn't *accurate*. He was simply repeating it in a different language with slightly different legal standards.
It doesn't change the fact that he already knew Elizabeth was going to return to the USA, plead guilty, and accept the consequences. There was nothing he could have done to "help" her at that point, and she had already indicated not only that she didn't want his help. In fact, she was about to do something that would be horribly damaging to *him*, since she would be pleading guilty to a crime he himself had committed.
So yes, he did repeat his confession to enhance his chances of being tried in Germany, but that has nothing to do with whether that confession was accurate or not.
You should not forget to mention, that Soering had stated a Haysom being present at the crime scene for the first time which was the complete opposite of keeping her away from the scene by placing her to DC. To explain this with emotional disturbance or alcohol sounds a little dumb. It makes more sence that ending the romantical relation-ship and the common plan to fight for extradition with mild punishments also ended Soering's intention to place her in DC any further!
Andrew, ich verstehe, dass Deine Arbeit hier im Blog sich dem Ende neigt, und der Wert Deiner Arbeit kann nicht hoch genug eingeschätzt werden. Emotional bin ich damit nicht einverstanden, denn der große Unterhaltungswert deiner Arbeit wird mir fehlen. Ich freue mich auf den nächsten Teil deiner Video-Reihe auf YouTube und wünsche Dir weiter viel Erfolg.
Sehr gut! Einzig möchte ich anmerken, dass Sörings Story Nr. 1 gegenüber der Polizei so lautete: "Ich weiss nichts von den Morden und habe die Opfer auch nur einmal kurz gesehen!" Wir können diese allererste Version Sörings der Einfachheit halber auch als Story Nr. 0 bezeichnen, dann stimmt ja die Nummerierung im Video wieder..... 😊
Sehr guter Punkt. Und die US Polizisten sind Privatdetektive, die nach E. suchen, weil die der Universität fernblieb.
Oh it's a pitty. I will miss your substack as I already do 😢
Aber was wird mit einer deutschen Version? Der Scharfsinn, die Witzigkeit und die skurrilen Vergleiche werden mir sehr fehlen!
Is there no date yet for when your book will appear in a German version?
I can barely wait for it!
Das komische ist, dass nie irgend jemand nachträglich erzählt hat, dass Söring ihn ins Vertrauen gezogen hätte und erzählt hat, dass er es gar nicht war. Das hält man doch gar nicht aus; die ganze schreckliche Angst vor den Konsequenzen und all das. Wenigstens einem von den „befreundeten“ Knackis hätte er doch mal sein Herz ausschütten können. Das hat er all die Jahre nicht getan aus dem einzigen akzeptablen Grund, dass ER ES EBEN DOCH WAR.
Man muss sich zumindest mit Söring so auseinander setzen, dass es den Tatsachen entspricht. Dafur muss man kein Supporter sein. Das tust du offensichtlich nicht. Stattdessen Küchenpsychologie. Söring hat sich während seiner Haftzeit mehreren Geistlichen anvertraut, die auch mitunter dem Paroleboard vorgesprochen haben. Also dein schwammiger Rückschluss sagt überhaupt nichts aus. Söring kann all diese Menschen manipuliert haben. Ein Lügendetektor wurde allerdings nie sein Gesprächspartner!
Wieso duzen Sie mich? In meiner Küche gibts keine Psychologen, nur Sushi. Mir ist Söring mittlerweile sowas von piepe. Es wird niemals rauskommen, was wirklich los war. Ich habe drei von seinen Büchern gelesen, um ihn zu verstehen. Dafür gibt es aber viel zu viele gute Bücher, dass ich mir ein viertes von ihm reinziehe. Reicht ja, wenn Sie über alles Bescheid wissen.