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Adam Lane's avatar

As the admin for the original and extant Perugia Murder File twitter account (@PerugiaMurderFi) which supports Amanda Knox's obvious innocence I was appalled by her support for a man obviously guilty of murdering two helpless senior citizens.

Hearing that she's published an interview with Hammel enables me to regain some of the respect for her previously lost.

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Mein Kommentar unter dem vorherigen Podcast-Blogeintrag passt hier immer noch.

Deshalb für mehr Vielfalt in Englisch:

"Clever connect to Knox that she was innocent. I'm sure that was conducive to making this podcast happen. Two sentences doesn't explain it, especially when one sentence quotes the verdict. It also sounded a bit different on Terrys/Nigel's site, back in the days of her first podcast series with Söring.

Please write about her case and justify your opinion.

Then I am fascinated how uncritically they question your monologue. Certainly, within an hour it is impossible to hold the facts/ambiguities in the case against each other. To monocausally string together interpretations, of course, is enough for that.

So background facts:

1. confessions

You leave out a crucial fact in your enumeration. In the last confession, Elizabeth Haysom appears at the crime scene, which also fits the end of the love affair between the two.

You leave out all the contradictions that clearly show that Söring is telling about things that he did not experience in part because no evidence or logical explanations can be found. We are not talking about two or three details here, but rather about at least 15-20 (painting, food, set of dishes, table, shoe marks, blood in the car, trash can ride, blood in the shower, missing blood on Derek's chair just to touch on a few topics). To explain this with alcoholized is not plausible and is not enough.

2. the letter with the tax return of Derek Haysom, which Elizabeth was supposed to write with her father on the day of the crime, and was postmarked in DC on Monday following the weekend of the crime, remains unmentioned! You don't have an explanation for this, as the investigators didn't get anywhere either. No fingerprints of the two (on this letter) that were expected to the weekend from the Haysoms. It is an inconvenient piece of evidence that also fell under the table in both trials. It is inconceivable that lone perpetrator Söring would start looking for this letter at the Haysoms to take back to DC. For Richard and Howard Haysom and Massie at times obviously the ultimate evidence that Elizabeth was not in DC. A DNA test from the glue area (saliva) is more than interesting!

3. expert opinion

It should be mentioned that Dr.Hamilton is Dr.Bullard's husband. This made it even easier to commission an expert opinion in the direction of Manslaughter.

4. DNA

No word on the fact that Gist said in the courtroom in 1990, no more blood available for DNA testing. That is a trial fact! No word on the fact that Söring was to be deported in 2010/11. I wonder why. Yes of course also because of the DNA results from 2009. Why then drum up the press extra loudly. That Derek Haysom's DNA was not requested by the DFS as reference DNA in 2009 is a total absurdity. After the direct cancellation of deportation, Söring fell into a deep hole. This should be understandable even for Söring critics!

5. alibi

I find it a bit naive to assume that Haysom stayed in DC because she says so and Jens says so in London in 1986. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence (letters) that he was deliberately keeping her away from the scene of the crime because he was just providing probation for her!!! Her defiant "I did it myself" doesn't sound like a joke to me, but rather like a "you probably don't trust me to do it". What they experienced together which should be too horrible for a continuation of the relationship doesn't fit with her partying in a bar in DC while he mutilates Derek Haysom's face! Also, he wrote "would piss me off" if he had read in a letter if she had completely taken the blame as a single perpetrator.

The key indication that both were in LC is the missing movie ticket to the last show, among all other implausible statements. There was enough money (jewelry sale!).

6. deal

So just because Updike says there was no deal, there was no deal. Wow. (He was the guy arguing positively on her in the direction of the parole board at her first hearing!) However, there was an early parole for Elizabeth 8 years after her sentence. That led to pressure from the family to have Judge Sweeney still write to the parole board (after her sentence) to tell them not to release her too soon. Corresponding reactions of the family then also to her first parole hearing!

She justified her decision not to fight through her deportation any further by saying that she did not want to rot in prison! Neaton gets even in the cross-examination with Haysom suitable answers. Rosenfield confirms it.

I've been in contact with Haysom myself. She is nice and open minded and she doesn't want to talk about the past. Her wording was "my horrible crime" without fingerpointing at Söring which fits self reflection and remorse. She is undoubtedly a better person. But should the thesis that she was at the scene of the crime be true, there is certainly no reason for her to go to the press, but much more for leaving the press behind. Same of course for DNA retesting!!!

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